But not Stones/Celtics good. Then again, they beat us last year with Lebron and Boobie alone.
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I can’t decide what this trade does for Cleveland. I mean larry hughes had a rediculous contract and couldn’t stay healthy, but was he that much better than wally world? I have no idea what Ben is going to bring. He’ll still bring energy and defense and rebounding, but they will have to overcome the same thing that the stones used to – the fact that with him on the floor your basically playing offense with 4 guys. Maybe Lebron is good enough to overcome that.
I agree the trade looks like it improves cleveland, they definitely are a little deeper. But I don’t know how much. Lebron obviously still scares the hell out of me in a playoff series, so any upgrade to his supporting cast, no matter how minimal doesn’t help.
I like how in my post i wrote “i have no idea what ben is going to bring.” And then named the things he’s going to bring in the next sentence. This is what happens when you don’t read your posts before you hit submit. I probably should have said “I don’t know how much Ben is going to bring.” or something to that effect.
I like juan dixon. I don’t see him cracking the lineup unless there’s an injury but I think he’s a better fit as our 11th man than flip is. Best part about this move is that it means flip is probably going to be cut.
Seattle is positioning itself to be really, really, good. Not so much because of this deal, but the other deals they have made. Didn’t they trade a second round pick for kurt thomas and a first rounder because they had a trade exception? And then turned around and traded him to the spurs for another first rounder? He’s already got durant and jeff green fom this year’s draft. Plus they’ll probabyl be in the top 5 of this years draft and have a couple extra first rounders in the next two years.
Ok just checked Hollinger’s trade breakdowns and this is what he has to say about Seattle’s end of this deal.
“In the meantime, Seattle GM Sam Presti has another trade exception to play with; the last time he had a big trade exception, he turned it into three first-round draft picks and a half-season of Kurt Thomas. And if he’s lucky, a healthy Marshall will shoot the lights out next season and earn him another first-round pick at next year’s deadline”
Jerry didn’t you introduce Sam Presti to basketball at emmanuel?
It’s just too bad all these guys are going to break out right around the time Seattle moves to Oklahoma City.
The seattle map looks a lot like the hawks map of the past few years and the bulls a few years before them. Lose a lot, get better through high draft picks. By stockpiling the picks they will continue to have good young talent, but it will be a few years before they are a real threat. Their biggest improvement should come from durant’s continued development. I like the deals, if you are going to lose, the best way to have excitement around your team is to have a lot of 1st and 2nd year players.
Dixon is a great insurance policy as the 4th gaurd (5th if you count lindsay who i still think is going to get minutes in the playoffs, even though stuckey owns).
I’m not a big fan of this trade for the cavs, it may give them some life and energy for this years playoffs but i don’t think actually improves their roster. Joe smith and Drew Gooden seem like a wash to me, both soft big men who have a little shooting touch. Ben Wallace might bring some major energy and rebound and play great defense but doesn’t sideshow bob already do that for cleveland and didn’t they spend some good money on him in the middle of this season? Wally world is not an upgrade over larry hughes, hughes took a lot of grief for being this awful shooter and its true he’s not the dead eye shooter that wally is but wally is really bad at defense.
As far as the pistons are concerned, it was larry hughes and eric snow who shut down chauncey in the playoffs. Wally cannot gaurd chauncey and i’m not so sure boobie gibson or delonte west is going to stop him. With wally on the floor, either chauncey or rip will have a nice mismatch while we are on offense and i like that. Offensively wally should be able to hit some open outside jumpers and provide exactly what pavlovic provided last season.
Delonte west? Not too impressed by a guy who can’t do anything significant playing for the awful celtics last season and the awful sonics this season.
I’m not sure the cavs got any better, but they still have lebron and he’s the best player in the eastern conference and its only between him and kobe for the best player in the league.
i’ve always liked delonte west. he has the ugliest shot in the history of basketball, but he’s pretty rugged, and he and gomes and jefferson were really the only legit pros on that celtics team last year. well, when pp was injured.
anyway, he’s good for 12 points and 5 boards and 5 assists if he was starting.